Karma System - Reputation Points

[Site Support]

We are going to start a pilot for a 'Karma' system of points scoring for members depending on their reputation in the forum.

The system is supposed to be fun rather than serious and anyone taking it too seriously will be stripped of points and beaten with sticks.

Each post includes an icon in the lower left corner (pair of scales). When you hold your mouse over it is says "Add to [username]'s reputation." If you click on it, you'll be taken to a form. You can either add to a user's reputation (I approve) or subtract from it (I disapprove).

In order to leave reputation points, you must have at least 10 reputation and 50 posts.

You can only leave 20 reputation feedbacks per day, and you must leave 10 reputation feedbacks to other people before you can affect any given user again.

Select the appropriate option, and then type in a comment and click "Add to reputation".

You can see what your reputation is and how many reputation points you have by clicking on the scale in any of your own posts.

Now to keep this fair an accurate...we have set limits.

For every 90 days as a member, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.

For every 150 posts, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.

For every 50 points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.

How many posts must a user have before his reputation hits count on others? 50

How much reputation must a user have before his reputation hits count on others? 10

How many reputation clicks can a user give over each 24 hour period? 20

How many different users must you give reputation to before you can hit the same person again? 10

A USER'S REPUTATION WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT ON THE BOARDS, POST QUALITY, THREAD STARTS, ETC.

Examples:

Act like a jackass and upset a few people... you points.

Site Support have the ability to award, or remove reputation points at will.

The scoring system is being 'tweaked' as the pilot progresses. Currently the rating is 0-7 with everyone starting on 2. The green lights are an indication as to your reputation level and don't relate to the exact number of points you have i.e. You don't get a green light for every point you go up.

Currently, everyone on the board starts with a reputation level of 10 - You can build from there.

So as you can see, user participation counts. It's up to you to determine your reputation.

Good Luck.

Site Support

[Alex]

Thank you very much for taking the time to implement it, i just hope it works as planned and any selfish people on this board dont spoil it for the rest of us.

[Loafer]

I think we should dock SS some points for multiple instances of the same post across all forums......at least ONE of them must be off topic

;):D

[redkingjoe]

I think we should dock SS some points for multiple instances of the same post across all forums......at least ONE of them must be off topic

;):D

10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000% agreed with you.
u c SS is a quick learner. he has seen many a posters sent the same thread for posting for a few time(well usually within the same forum).... plus we have been talking about media coverage lately....and not many ppl read site-update/web comment...
the question now is: how to dock?
the problem is: will other ppls imitate this behaviour?

it's really cool to test run the reputation system....i'm now thinking about a "healthy system", say if one "checks in" 3 times per week and makes "at least one post per month", one is a healthy badder.

[Loafer]

What have i started!

*clutches chest* I feel my karma slipping away as SS reads your post, Red, and targets the ringleader of the discord.......

;)

[Site Support]

The idea of posting in the most important forums was to grab everyone's immediate attention. The only thread you can reply to is the one in Badders Banter and the other two will be removed in time.

*reminder to self...have extra karma points for being very clever and the best support on the site*

[Loafer]

*gently reminds SS that no one likes a smart arse*

[redkingjoe]

The idea of posting in the most important forums was to grab everyone's immediate attention. The only thread you can reply to is the one in Badders Banter and the other two will be removed in time.

*reminder to self...have extra karma points for being very clever and the best support on the site*

hey clever dude,
1 please help to think about the possibility of a "healthy system" like i said.
2 in order to qualify as "the best support", i really would like to talk about the thread: "what is meant by site-support?":

(http://www.badders.com/forum/showthread.html?t=1276)

[Loafer]

hey clever dude,
1 please help to think about the possibility of a "healthy system" like i said.

the problem here Red, is that I am not sure the interest in the forum for the "healthy system" would justify the effort of creating/maintaining it.

You can see from a user profile, when they last logged in and did anything, so if you really wanted to check you could. Personally speaking, I know who the main people here are that I like to talk to and I know they both check in and post regularly. The requirement for a "healthy" system would suggest that we intend to do something to those "unhealthy" members, like "chase up" those people who dont post/check in, but then by inference you are saying that to register for the site means you are commiting to both check in and post. This commitment would put some people off from registering, thus reducing new members, something we are are keen to promote i think. If you are NOT going to do anything, like chase up those people that dont check in or post, as a result of the system, then I would question the need for it.

JMHO

[NotBornYesterday]

dear site support,

it's nice to see the karma system launched so soon. but the unanswered questions still remain.
i'm now extracting them from the other thread to save you the trouble of digging them out:

-- do our votes need your approval before the 'reputation count' increases?
-- regarding the comments bar:
-----are the comments we give to be published for common view?
-----would it matter if suggestions be included in our comments?
-- and finally, to recap my 1st question: how will it be possible for someone's reputation level to be increased since all of us are starting out with a '2' and so are not allowed to vote because we haven't attained the "reasonable" level. you see, it's going in circles.

[Loafer]

NBY,

read the launch post again. it explains all of this.

we all start on level two = 10 reputation points to give us all an equal playing feild on which to start. this was not coincidence or accidental.

reputation votes do not get approved by SS

as i understand it any comments left for you by another memebr are veiwed by clicking on the scales at the bottom of your OWN name box (on the left of a post)

the green box and the number shown when you point your mouse at it, is the LEVEL you are at. the number of reputation points are shown when you click on your own scales (see point above)

hope that helps

[Loafer]

Although it is interesting to note that the levels are 0-7 and SS has a rating of 8!!

just one peice of genuine feedback so far SS. the idea that you have to distribute karma to 10 individuals before you can hit the same person up a second time is a little restrictive. if someone makes a valid point or posts a particuarly interesting or amusing post two days in a row, I have to go off trawling for another 9 people that deserve a point before I can show my appreciation to the original poster? as this is a trial and therefore designed to find the bugs, and flaws I just wanted to raise this one. It is not too serious but a little frustrating. I can only suggest you impose a time limit on hitting the same persons karma scales, or reduce the number to something more managable. It is of course up to you but just my opinion. hope it helps

[NotBornYesterday]

NBY,

read the launch post again. it explains all of this.

we all start on level two = 10 reputation points to give us all an equal playing feild on which to start. this was not coincidence or accidental.

reputation votes do not get approved by SS

as i understand it any comments left for you by another memebr are veiwed by clicking on the scales at the bottom of your OWN name box (on the left of a post)

the green box and the number shown when you point your mouse at it, is the LEVEL you are at. the number of reputation points are shown when you click on your own scales (see point above)

hope that helps

thanks for the effort Loaf :)

i must be a bit thick now :o can't seem to find anywhere in SS's post that says we start out with 10 reputation points.

[Loafer]

Currently, everyone on the board starts with a reputation level of 10 - You can build from there.

So as you can see, user participation counts. It's up to you to determine your reputation.

Good Luck.

Site Support
voila:D;)

it was right at the bottom of his post.

Glad to help

[Alex]

Although it is interesting to note that the levels are 0-7 and SS has a rating of 8!!

just one peice of genuine feedback so far SS. the idea that you have to distribute karma to 10 individuals before you can hit the same person up a second time is a little restrictive. if someone makes a valid point or posts a particuarly interesting or amusing post two days in a row, I have to go off trawling for another 9 people that deserve a point before I can show my appreciation to the original poster? as this is a trial and therefore designed to find the bugs, and flaws I just wanted to raise this one. It is not too serious but a little frustrating. I can only suggest you impose a time limit on hitting the same persons karma scales, or reduce the number to something more managable. It is of course up to you but just my opinion. hope it helps

Agree with you there, and at the moment im not convinced there is 10 active members whos posts i want to rate? The problem then is once you have rated a few people you cant rate them again and its stalemate! :eek:

You also end up rating people you dont particularly want to or who dont deserve it.

[Loafer]

[/QUOTE=Site Support]

The scoring system is being 'tweaked' as the pilot progresses. [/QUOTE]
as they say, it is a trial and it is being tweaked, lets hope our feedback helps

[Phil McBride]

So in that case how do we find out who has said what about each of our posts without going through them all? It might take a little longer for some of us :rolleyes:

Any chance of tweaking that bit SS?

Maybe provide a list to us so we can view the comments on our own posts? (you know, so we can improve or target the raw nerve kind of thing ;) )

[redkingjoe]

the problem here Red, is that I am not sure the interest in the forum for the "healthy system" would justify the effort of creating/maintaining it.

You can see from a user profile, when they last logged in and did anything, so if you really wanted to check you could. Personally speaking, I know who the main people here are that I like to talk to and I know they both check in and post regularly. The requirement for a "healthy" system would suggest that we intend to do something to those "unhealthy" members, like "chase up" those people who dont post/check in, but then by inference you are saying that to register for the site means you are commiting to both check in and post. This commitment would put some people off from registering, thus reducing new members, something we are are keen to promote i think. If you are NOT going to do anything, like chase up those people that dont check in or post, as a result of the system, then I would question the need for it.

JMHO
there are a few reasons for setting up the healthy system:
1 encourage the registered ppl to check things up regularly in order to be "healthy", just 1 or 3 times a week. also, when we look at the "healthy index" we might identify some members are regular lookers even if one doesn't posts.
2 eg those who check in at least 1 or 3 times a week and post at least once per month might be "healthy and sporty", and those whose posts at least once per week might be athelatic, those who posts daily might be "burn out"....who knows what our sSS(smart Site-support) will come up?
3 well, we need to create something for our sSS to exercise his noodles: on one hand, to demonstrate his cleverness and on the other hand give him opportunities to live up with the "best" site-support....

just some ideas

[NotBornYesterday]

So in that case how do we find out who has said what about each of our posts without going through them all? It might take a little longer for some of us :rolleyes:

Any chance of tweaking that bit SS?

Maybe provide a list to us so we can view the comments on our own posts? (you know, so we can improve or target the raw nerve kind of thing ;) )

that's right. i may not contribute greatly in number of posts (nor quality, i'm aware!)-- it would still take an immense amount of time to rake through the previous posts for comments. and i may only be getting one in 20 posts. :rolleyes:

[Loafer]

I was under the impression you saw all the comments at the same time when clicking your scales button?

I guess not?

SS clarification please?

[Phil McBride]

I was under the impression you saw all the comments at the same time when clicking your scales button?

I guess not?

SS clarification please?

Nope, all you see is your points tally if you click on your scales

[Woody]

Aren't we in danger of getting to hung up on our reputation?

This is supposed to be a fun thing and at the end of the day do we as posters really care?

Just because we don't 'advance' our reputation are we really going to change the way we are?

I don't think we wish to or in fact should.

We rae who we are and i for one won't change, my employers have been trying to get me to change for years and have failed miserably.

Still not long ' til I retire so who cares. :rolleyes:

[Phil McBride]

Aren't we in danger of getting to hung up on our reputation? Yes

This is supposed to be a fun thing and at the end of the day do we as posters really care? No we don't

Just because we don't 'advance' our reputation are we really going to change the way we are? No chance

I don't think we wish to or in fact should. You are quite correct

We rae who we are and i for one won't change, my employers have been trying to get me to change for years and have failed miserably. Given who your employers are you should be more carefull, but I'm sure the pension is good ;)

Still not long ' til I retire so who cares. :rolleyes:

And as such your reputation has increased :)

[redkingjoe]

Aren't we in danger of getting to hung up on our reputation? NO

This is supposed to be a fun thing and at the end of the day do we as posters really care? I care

Just because we don't 'advance' our reputation are we really going to change the way we are?I try to. also look at the successful example that loafer(may be he's young)
I don't think we wish to or in fact should. Yeh.

We rae who we are and i for one won't change, my employers have been trying to get me to change for years and have failed miserably. sounds like: my wife has been trying to get me to change for life...but when she tries hard enough...i really changed...a little bit..from listerning to non-listening..heheheStill not long ' til I retire so who cares. :rolleyes:

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[Loafer]

I have to say i thought this discussion was because people are playing around with a new feature? certainly that is my opinion. I post what I want to post because it is my opinion or something I want to say. you like it, great , if not well thats your lookout. definately not hung up on reputation here.

[Site Support]

I was under the impression you saw all the comments at the same time when clicking your scales button?

I guess not?

SS clarification please?
Go into Quick links on the menu, then User Control Panel.

There will be a list of the last 10 votes that you received and comments if given.

Site Support

[Phil McBride]

Go into Quick links on the menu, then User Control Panel.

There will be a list of the last 10 votes that you received and comments if given.

Site Support

Are we to assume the green ones are positive and the grey ones are negative?

Many don't even have comments :rolleyes: what's the point of that :confused:

Can you extend it to the last 50 posts or even set a date alternative on it so we can choose a date and it shows the comments?

[redkingjoe]

Are we to assume the green ones are positive and the grey ones are negative? hohoho, so you have got negative feedback.

Many don't even have comments :rolleyes: all don't have comments for mine

what's the point of that :confused: have fun, i fink

Can you extend it to the last 50 posts or even set a date alternative on it so we can choose a date and it shows the comments? totally agree with you. SSS, please consider to act on, thanks.

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