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bmh
7th May 2005, 13:46
There are a couple of courses listed on the website:
http://www.badmintonengland.co.uk/text.asp?section=0001000100200001

Has anyone here been on either of them ? What was it like ? How difficult did you
find it ?

Does anyone know what the typical 'pass rate' is for them ?

I have been thinking about going for the 'level 1' course as a way of improving
the badminton of the group I play with (and hopefully improving my own game as
well), but I don't know how much preparation an ordinary player would need ...

Thanks for any info,

Bernard

JKL
7th May 2005, 23:30
Hi Bernard, a couple of my 16 year old juniors passed their Level 1 recently with no problem, it's an assistant coaching course and I think they gained a lot from it, understanding the importance of the "detailed" techniques. The Level 2 is similaer to the old Coach Part 1 and I think if you like badminton enough so that you put your work in, you won't go far wrong.

redkingjoe
9th May 2005, 02:56
hi bernard,

Go for it....after taking the level 1, go for the level 2. i would encourage everyone who are serious in badminton and can play to a decent standard join these courses. I have actually been watching over this level 1 license course for a few months. when my son turns 16, i will get him registered to take level 1.

there's an excellent saying in chinese "The teacher will grow together with the student during the process of teaching".

after you have completed these levels, and start coaching someone(with or without fees) you will be able to see yourself from a difference angle...eg how to execute the shot properly, how to improve your skills fasters....

(btw: (story telling time) when i was studying for GCE O level, i was a "free tutor" to another GCE O level student, even i didn't feel working extra-hard, i found my knowledge in these subjects improved to a much higher level within a few months. during that time, i did not know about the theory about learning. now that i knew if one uses his heart to teach, he will work harder than he normally does and will try to grasp the whole situation better)

take the course; whole-heartly recommended.(give us a report after you passed)

bmh
10th May 2005, 06:42
Thanks for the encouragement, I've (hopefully) booked myself on the course in
Milton Keynes at the beginning of June, the courses do seem to be quite popular.

I'll report back on how I get on ...

Bernard

redkingjoe
18th May 2005, 03:15
The closer i look at the course content, the more i like the course offered by BE. It sounds to be having very good coverage. after the course, one can learn all the correct techniques/skills.

when i discussed this kind of courses with my son's chinese coach, i have received very good feedback from him. He said: if one wants to play better and improve faster, investing time in learning how to coach and teaching others are the best. the key point of coaching other is: one will autometically start to use the brain more on reasoning and to think logically about badminton in order to teach...in doing so, the coach will advance his badminton to the next level and be a better player.

though i think the 9 hours involvement might be a little bit short:

Level 1 Assistant Coach Award

The Level 1 Assistant Coach Award is the first step in the BADMINTON England Coaching system.

It has been designed to give candidates a really good idea of HOW and WHAT to coach to beginner players. The following are some key questions that you may want to know the answers to. If you have further questions then do not hesitate to contact BADMINTON England Coaching Department (coaching@badmintonengland.co.uk).

What does the level 1 course qualify me to do?
The course will qualify the successful candidate to assist a qualified coach working with:

Junior beginners / junior club players
Senior beginners/social/club players in the lower levels of local leagues
Gaining the Award is also a pre-requisite for taking a further BADMINTON England Coaching Award

What skills do I need to go on the course?

Candidates should have some understanding of basic scoring and rules particularly serving rules)
Candidates will be expected to have some experience playing the game
Candidates should be able to racket feed single shuttles to the forecourt and rearcourt using an underarm technique to give players reasonable practice opportunities
NB: there will be opportunities to develop these skills further on the course



Is there an age restriction?
Candidates must be 16 years of age or older

How long is the course?
The course lasts 9 hours including 1 hour’s worth of breaks

Who will teach me?
BADMINTON England will guarantee that you will be taught by a suitably qualified and experienced tutor

How do I find a course?
Click on the link to go to the ‘Forthcoming Courses Section’ or call the BADMINTON England Coaching Department on 01908 268400

Course Style
The course is designed to be educational and enjoyable. The style of delivery is interactive so you will be fully involved in the theory and practical sessions of the course.

The aim is to link theory and practice throughout the course so you will learn about what to coach and then how to apply this when working with players.

Course Content
The course provides an excellent introduction to how to coach beginners and what to coach them.

The content of the course is broadly organised under four headings:

Coaching practice
Safety
Ethics
Player development
Preparation and planning
Communication skills



Technical skills
Grips
The stroke cycle
Forehand high serve
Forehand low serve
Forehand dropshot
Forehand netshot
Forehand lift
Forehand clear
Backhand net shot
Backhand lift
Backhand low serve

Basic rules for singles and doubles
Scoring
Serving
Court dimensions

Tactical skills
The base position
Playing to space
Serving and returning

bmh
6th June 2005, 08:30
Well, I went on the Level 1 course (and passed!)

I think it was definitely a worthwhile experience for around the cost of
a reasonable racket.

The morning was spent on warm-ups (dynamic stretching etc.), safety and
player development and the techniques and practice of feeding of
shuttles (by hand and with a racket) to a player.

Some of the course was a little more focused to teaching children
(rather than adult beginners) than I expected, but still seemed to cover
both.

Most of the afternoon was spent going through the shots (high and low
serves, forehand clear and drop shots and forehand and backhand lift and
net shots) as both player (practicing) and coach (explaining and
demonstrating).

You get a colour booklet with 8-12 pictures going through the stages of
each shot, listing the important points (eg. that your feet should point
in the direction that you are lunging), and the reasons for playing that
type of shot. (It would be good if Badminton England could publish
something like it on it's website).

There was also a section on tactics and positioning, (eg. where your
base should be given where your opponent is.)

It was well organised and taught, my only minor criticism was that
the hall was a bit noisy when there were other people using the remaining
courts.

The course crammed a lot into one (long) day, and I'm till aching at the
moment ...

I'm going to look into Level 2 courses once I've had a bit more
practice, though there does seem to be a bit of a shortage of Level 2
courses in my area ...

Bernard

redkingjoe
6th June 2005, 10:13
bernard,
congratulations.

really glad that you went for it...go for the level 2 now(be early bird)...before everybody else trying to get in..it's super extra extremely exceedingly difficult to get a place for coach training in Hong Kong

when one reaches a certain level in playing, i still believe that time invested in learning to be a coach has a better "return on investment" than learning to be a player. once my son is 16, i'll get him for level one license

redkingjoe
6th June 2005, 10:55
Level 1 Badminton NCDP Coaching Course Information

This course is designed for those who are working with or who want to work with beginners in badminton - both adult and juvenile. Some badminton knowledge is required and you need to be of good playing ability. There is an Introduction to Coaching course for those who have little or no previous experience of the game. You do not have to have completed this course to do the Level 1 provided you have sufficient playing experience.

OBJECTIVES
- Improve coaches theoretical knowledge of badminton technique
- Improve coaches own technical skills to enable correct demonstrations of badminton techniques when coaching
- Develop an understanding and acceptance of the necessity of continuous development of own skills
- Teach the coaches how to use the DKDP-cycle as a method of coaching
- Give coaches a basic knowledge of stroke development: Fault observation, fault prioritizing, methodology and short-term/long-term planning
- Make the coaches understand and accept the necessity of continuous development of stroke development skills
- Understand the difference between “the standard technique” coaches must be able to demonstrate and introduce and the individualized stroke development that must be based on the players existing technique
- Participants will also gain knowledge on how to organise and deal with groups in a badminton setting in a fun, safe and simple way – warm ups/cool downs
- The role of the coach, the rules of badminton, how to coach the necessary skills and tactics for beginners





STRUCTURE
Day 1 and 2
Introduction to badminton technique
Introduction to the DKDP-cycle
Introduction to stroke development
Main focus on improving coaches own technical skills
Identifying and prioritize the three most important key points to focus on for every stroke/foot work technique when the coaches are practicing their own technical skills between the two week-ends

Between day 1-2 and day 3-4 (minimum 4 weeks)
Practicing coaches own technical skills with the personal key points as the major guideline
Gain coaching experience with the DKDP-cycle and stroke development

Day 3 and 4
Continuous development of technical knowledge
Work with the DKDP-cycle
Main focus on improving coaches skills in stroke development
Identifying and prioritize the three most important key points the focus on for every stroke/foot work technique when the coaches are practicing their own technical skills after the Level 1 coaching course

The following badminton techniques will be covered on the course so please feel free to practice beforehand!
· Forehand Grips and Backhand Grips
· High and Low Serve (both Forehand and Backhand)
· Overhead Clear - both Forehand and Backhand
· Overhead Drop - both Forehand and Backhand
· Net Shots and Kills – both Forehand and Backhand
· Lifts – both Forehand and Backhand
· Smash and Smash Returns

All of the above will be covered in detail on the course and participants will practice their own playing technique as well as learning how to coach the shots listed above.

takes 4 days to complete and there will be continuous assessment including practical coaching sessions, written assignments and a rules test – participants will receive a Level 1 BUI/NCDP certificate upon successful completion of the course tasks. The majority of the course has a practical base and it is ideal for those dealing with beginners of all ages.

Cost per participant is €300/£210 but funding may be available from your local council or sports development officer to assist with this. If you are unsure of who to contact about this, your regional development officer will have the relevant contact details.


The above is from BUI. It seems that the duration of the level 1 course is much much looooooooonger than BE's. Wasn't it standardized?

JKL
6th June 2005, 14:19
Bernard,

I would suggest getting a few months' of assistant coaching experience first before rushing into Level 2. It's not academic and there is no rush. Level 2 is not a difficult course but you would benefit a lot more if you have some practical experience since you can relate the course material with your own experience. Also, you are required to coach an individual or a group of players for a specified number of sessions (case studies), if you have a base of where you're coaching, and that you get used to coaching certain players, you can get a lot more from doing the case studies with them. The head coach there will also be likely to give you pointers.

Hope this helps,

JKL