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alansd
30th August 2005, 13:20
Hello,
I have been away from the game for a while and have decided to make an attempt to try to get back into it and play again at decent standard, maybe division one or two in county league. I am currently playing with an ashaway XT 3000 and before I go out and buy one or even two more I wanted some other input. I know this racket is a year or two old and wondered if its worth buying more of this or just breaking the bank and going for some of the newer models. Never been able to afford to play with yonex before but was curious if other thought they were worth the extra or if they are simply overpriced?
Any advice?
Thanks
Alan
^^''
3rd September 2005, 21:11
dude, you should try the Yonex Carbonex 30MS. :) The price is aceptable. It has very good power and control. Its almost equivalent to my NanoSpeed 8000 in term of power, and it costs me less ;) I dunno if it would be almost the same feeling as an Ashaway cuz I've never been able to play with an Ashaway. Here, where I live( canada) there's not a alot of model for badminton rackets. All I can find over there are Yonex, black knight, carlton and prince.
The Forsaken
3rd September 2005, 23:19
dude, you should try the Yonex Carbonex 30MS. :) The price is aceptable. It has very good power and control. Its almost equivalent to my NanoSpeed 8000 in term of power, and it costs me less ;) I dunno if it would be almost the same feeling as an Ashaway cuz I've never been able to play with an Ashaway. Here, where I live( canada) there's not a alot of model for badminton rackets. All I can find over there are Yonex, black knight, carlton and prince.
The Forsaken suggests that this would only apply if the Cab 30 was the correct racket for him - he has neglected to notify us of his playing style and the current configuration of his standard racket!
See the wisdom!
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4th September 2005, 00:04
The Forsaken suggests that this would only apply if the Cab 30 was the correct racket for him - he has neglected to notify us of his playing style and the current configuration of his standard racket!
See the wisdom!
hi, I did some research on his racket(XT 3000 ), and it seems to be an offensive one so i presume he's an offensive player... o.o should be...* rolling eyes* if that's the case, an CAB30MS would be a great racket for him
anyways
The Forsaken
4th September 2005, 01:46
hi, I did some research on his racket(XT 3000 ), and it seems to be an offensive one so i presume he's an offensive player... o.o should be...* rolling eyes* if that's the case, an CAB30MS would be a great racket for him
anyways
The Forsaken asks what makes this racket "seem to be an offensive one" in your eyes? The weight, the flex, the balance? Have you asked Alan if instead of changing his racket he has tried experimenting with the simple things that can change his game like different racket grips or string types and tensions.
Rather than change a racket change things that make the racket complete as you must feel at one with your racket! FACT.
I would suggest that in division 1 and/or county level (depending on the county of course) he is more of an all rounder with a balanced game.
The Forsaken thinks at this level Alan would have a good attacking game along with a strong defense so he might even be classed as a defensive player.
^^''
4th September 2005, 02:26
The Forsaken asks what makes this racket "seem to be an offensive one" in your eyes? The weight, the flex, the balance? Have you asked Alan if instead of changing his racket he has tried experimenting with the simple things that can change his game like different racket grips or string types and tensions.
Rather than change a racket change things that make the racket complete as you must feel at one with your racket! FACT.
I would suggest that in division 1 and/or county level (depending on the county of course) he is more of an all rounder with a balanced game.
The Forsaken thinks at this level Alan would have a good attacking game along with a strong defense so he might even be classed as a defensive player.
hey, ok I have to admit that he can just change the string, but there is a limit for every racket. Even by changing things on ur racket, it won't bring you further than a certain limit. And by the way, I didn't forced him to change his racket, I just give him some opinion IF he wanna change racket( thats gonna be up to him). As for the offensive part, it has some sites over the net where they show you the stats and which they compared to other rackets performance too so thats why I said it seems to be an offensive one because of the comparaison they made and people's comments that they tried and gives a lot of power. Plus, I think IF he is change for a better racket ( im saying that his racket is not good at all but just changing for a better one) will help him to improve alot more and faster.
The Forsaken
4th September 2005, 09:21
hey, ok I have to admit that he can just change the string, but there is a limit for every racket. Even by changing things on ur racket, it won't bring you further than a certain limit. And by the way, I didn't forced him to change his racket, I just give him some opinion IF he wanna change racket( thats gonna be up to him). As for the offensive part, it has some sites over the net where they show you the stats and which they compared to other rackets performance too so thats why I said it seems to be an offensive one because of the comparaison they made and people's comments that they tried and gives a lot of power. Plus, I think IF he is change for a better racket ( im saying that his racket is not good at all but just changing for a better one) will help him to improve alot more and faster.
The Forsaken thinks you are not a great player; otherwise you would change what you need to first rather than chosing a basic racket like the Cab30 and having to through exactly the same process you would with an old racket but with a new racket costing the player more money!
The racket you use must be balanced for you - no one else! So with this in midt The Forsaken will explain badminton 101 for beginners:
Grip
The thickness of the grip gives a balance between power and control, you need to find the correct thickness for you! You need to find the correct thickness which gives the perfect balance between the control and power of the racket, not too thick and not too thin. Too many people do this wrongly and just keep a racket from the shop with the original overgrip and do nothing to it.
String
Some strings are manufactured for maximum control and some are manufactured for maximum power, again you need to find the correct string that suits your game and more your style of play, then you move onto point three.
Tension
Tension on the string is balanced again between power and control, generally the higher the tension the more the control and less the power, that is why technique plays a greater part the higher up the tension scale you go as this is where you get your power from.
If you have any more beginner questions The Forsaken is only to pleased to spend some time with you to explain.
Now do you see the wisdom?
alansd
4th September 2005, 22:05
I am really touched at your concern over my racket of choice but there is no need to start having a go at someone because they know less than you, Mr foresaken made some good points about grips and strings which I am pretty happy with. All I was wanting to know is if the technological advances yonex sell themselves on are really going to make much of a difference to anyone but the top players., and the guy with just symbols for his name gave me his opinion, cheers for that.
I am not a division one player or anywhere near county, in fact I just joined a club today, am just setting that as a goal but I woukl have to say I dont class myself as either attacking or defensive, you really do have to be able to play both as the situation dictates. Anyway, I think I will just stick with what I have for now and try to have a hit with some others and then decide.
Cheers
A
The Forsaken
4th September 2005, 22:59
The Forsaken will put it into beginner language then:
Light rackets are generally not stiff and give you extra power because of the flex, if you lack technique and are a defensive player.
Heavier rackets are generally stiff and give you power due to your technique and are more offensive rackets.
If you need more on your shots try a more flexible racket (possibly head heavy), if your technique is sound try a stiffer one.
alansd
4th September 2005, 23:15
I didnt need that put into "beginners" language for me but thanks anyway. Technique seems to be pretty sound so will stick with the stiffer racket I have for the moment.
matrix2353
6th September 2005, 21:30
Yeah a got the Ashaway XT 3000, it is extremely lite. I am no expert but from my point of view Yonex would make no difference to your game from Ashaway, its just the name you are buying into. But the lite racket is great in helping you with your technique, its not big nd heavy and in doubles for instance you are likely to get your racket up quicker at the net and your racket swing is likely to be faster and you should be more prepared for the coming shot. A dont no if this sounds like a load of crap but Hey am tryin ma best
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