Full time coaching

[PaulSalkeld]

Are there any full time coaches out there? Is it feesable to coach badminton ful time? Your opinions would be appreciated. Thanks

[chris wild]

but it stops UK sport from catching up with serious sporting countries. I work for a sports website & give myself time off to coach. Without this indirect sponsorship it would be impossible. There is an English mentality that it is indecent to take money off players / clubs. Coaches & umpires are expected to be grateful for traveling expenses. Some coaches (Dennis & Shirley Wright) do a brilliant job as full time coaches with excellent courses for any one interested at David LLoyd Liverpool. I coach 2 sports & would like to take l2 & L3 respectively but that ould cost some £600. So I do the L2 / l3 workshops (Dennis Wright; sports coach UK etc). A full time coach need first aid qualifications (FAW) S0 a full time coach has serious overheads like all sole traders in business. A full time caoch also pays (or leards the how to) a bookkeeper/accountant etc etc. So a full time coach does not simply collect £££££ for coaching those willing to pay - those willing to pay expect a professional, qualified & competent service. In this economic climate there are few caches who can get themselves adequately organised
But don't let me discourage you, go for your level 2/3 & other coaching workshops etc It can be done & is being done.

[carlos]

If the top flight athletes are earning a huge amount then there will be money in if for the top flight coaches. But the ones at the top are few and far between.

At a grass root level, professional coaching would never catch on, because the money isn't there to support it.

[badmintoncoach]

Hi Paul It is possible to coach full time I wish you luck if you go down this avenue, It can be hard work but it it possible.

[chris wild]

I am not clear if the original question was a personal request for info on how to start coaching full time. If it were then read on. A full time coach would be well advised to have at least a L2 qualification & attend many appropriate sportscoach UK courses. Membership of sports coach UK provides a legal aid aspect. Sorry to spoil any romantic idea of everyone loves the coach. The fact is that if there is a problem then a good solicitor may be vital.There should be a first aid certificate preferably FAW & Emergency First Aid for Coaches. An enhanced CRB is important. It is also important to coach within your qualification. That means that a L2 would not coach Donna Kellog & Gail Emms - thats takes a L4 or equivilent. Coaching Children requires appropriate expertise. These days SPUK childrens courses are obligatory & include both of 2 coaching children courses; LTAD, child protection, disability (there are often various levels of disability in a group of children & adults)
I have coached (they say tought) in primary & secondary schools who will pay a good rate. However you may need to supply correct equipmen as not all schools have childrens rackets, shuttles, nets etc. Schools appreciate a knowledge of national curriculum & now LTAD. I have done the Managing Coaches Within LTAD course. I can therefore support staff & pupils. So you would work with the teaching standards & aims of the schools national curriculum so you will help primary school children prepare for their KS 1,2 &3 evaluations. In secondary level this is KS 3,4,5&6. if you have the appropriate skills. Secondary schools may specialise as a Sports Academy. Suitably qualified & experienced coaches could succeed.
Teacher Training for part time agency (your company) sports teachers who also coach adults?
:rolleyes:
Thats not an exhaustive or authoritive memorandum. It considers some key issues
What do you think about it?
Chris

[PaulSalkeld]

Thanks Chris for the extensive info, its much appreciated. I am a level 2 coach and looking to take the level 3, which i beleive is out in January 2007. I have coached for many years on and off in the evenings or weekends, but work has always been the problem with after school clubs and sports centres. The just start far too early for me, and i can never garantee i can be out of work on time. I have put a few feelers out around the Island, and there is some interest. I would have to take a mojor leap of faith with work as i cannot go part time. so would probably get a part time flexible job and fill the rest (hopefully) with either, sports centres, schools or private tuition. I have spoken to Helen Davies, the Hampshire Development Officer, and she seems sure you can make a living from it.
I would imaginge i would have to spend some toime on the mainland too. Once again, thankyou for your help.

[chris wild]

I am pleased to be of help. I hope you do't think me presumptious in making a few more comments.
Local Borough Councils will use L2 coaches. As coaches are few & far between it is worth while contacting SDOs. Also County development is a possibility development officers - that is County as none specific sports. If you form a specific .company' you will be more attrative that just being some one called Paul whatsisname. This does not mean forming a Limited Company called Have Racket Will Travel Limited There are issues that are not suited to discussion on this bb but if you tell badders that I have given permission in this instance to contact me on my email (this reply is confirmation) I might be able to help further.
Protocols & politics do need attention. It is good to get support from all the sources that are available to you & plan, do market research etc etc. I know it sounds formal when there is the desire to just make money from enjoying a hobby. As director of a Ltd Company I realise the importance of building on a sound foundation. The full time coach is like an iceberg in that the coaching bit is the visible bit. The major part is invisible & under the ssurface - but that's what gives stability & stops it all falling over.
Best wishes for a successful career in coaching
Chris