The Carlton National Leisure Centres Championships 2006/7

[ganny]

Hi all,

I know all the discussion has been around league and national player/competition. But in the mains, badminton is played by millions in Leisure Centre for which I am one of them. I am of average standard but would like a challenge in playing others in competition and have joined to compete in a leisure in London.

So would just like to know if anyone in this forum, is entering this competition as mention in the Badminton England website and in an article in Badders news.

[razaul]

I could like 2 take part in the tournament. Pls can u give me same detail in how 2 take part.

Thanks
Raz

[ganny]

I could like 2 take part in the tournament. Pls can u give me same detail in how 2 take part.

Thanks
Raz

Hi Raz,

You might be to late to enter but it depends on the Leisure Centre involve. Go to Badminton England Website below. There is a list of Leisure Centre that is taking part, just phone them and asked if it is still possible to take part as long as you have not played league before. Best of luck.

http://www.badmintonengland.co.uk/text.asp?section=0001000100190023&itemTitle=The+Carlton+National+Leisure+Centres+Cha mpionships+2006%2F7

[richard murray]

Doesnt seem to exclude County players and looking at the list there are sure to be some from 2nd and thirds playing as well as Vets, depends which group you are in to start with

[CWB]

Players who have played in a league or for a club are banned from entering. Not many county playetrs would be in this situation, especially as most county squads are registered with BE as clubs.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

so.. what is this?

just another name for a bonanza?

[richard murray]

Thats going to be an interesting one to police

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Is Irwansyah playing in it?

:D

[richard murray]

whats the prize money, 33p?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Players who have played in a league or for a club are banned from entering. Not many county playetrs would be in this situation, especially as most county squads are registered with BE as clubs.

Someone explain that post to me?

Is CWB saying that if your in a club your not allowed to enter.

Not many county players would be in this situation.

But most county squads are registered with BE as clubs. (therefore not able to enter) ??

:confused:

Can't get my head round that one!!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

whats the prize money, 33p?

And a ladybird racket.

They are also hoping to get Ladybird himself to make a guest appearance and present the prizes.

[richard murray]

it means that as they cant police it anyone can enter, but the they liked the wording.

what can you get for 33p in thailand?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

a whole night of spanking!

good bang for your bhat these days!

[alansd]

Has anyone at BE though of getting some players to put on a bit of an exhibition at some of these leisure centre tournaments.?
I think they are a great idea because there are so many people all round the county that are no involved with the game in any other way than playing with three other mates once a week. These are the people we need to get involved to have any chance of a national league becoming a reality. I think if some of the england juniors or even county first team players were to play a set or two when this was going in it would get a lot more people interested in watching matches since the huge majority of people who play have no idea actually what the game is like at a good standard.

[richard murray]

no need Alan they probably will be playing anyway, otherwise why dont you do it?

[alansd]

Well I am not at a level to encourage anyone to play!
Also, these are not for the kind of people that will get anywhere near county standard. As far as I am aware anyone who has played in any type of league as an adult is not allowed to play. I really do hope that you dont get people that are above that standard playing since it will just put people off.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

kinda shows you how bad league and structured play is at the moment, if we are now financing events for those who are not involved at any form of structured level....

shrewdly, if there are a lot of people entering this event its then a great opportunity to get more folk playing in a structured environment

by this, I mean doing a bit of active PR and Marketing at the event

[alansd]

This is exactly what I mean, although I dont think the league structure is that bad.
Woody was going on about how few people would go and watch but if these people were to go and play and see some handy players putting on a show with lots of jump smashes and trick shots I am sure it would whet their appetite to go and watch some more. Thats assuming 2 things. 1) Something was organised 2) People find out about it

[richard murray]

Its a good Idea Alan, it would be good for the players to see a good demo match prior to the event (it would also give the BE a good chance to promote players and the game)

How many non county players actually know the majority of top UK players names? let alone what they look like.

[alansd]

Anyone here involved with BE or know anyone who is?
Saying that I just looked and it is on at 130 venues round the country so maybe just the larger ones!

[CWB]

Someone explain that post to me?

Is CWB saying that if your in a club your not allowed to enter.

Not many county players would be in this situation.

But most county squads are registered with BE as clubs. (therefore not able to enter) ??

:confused:

Can't get my head round that one!!

Let's take it one step at a time to make things easy, then. The BE website says:

"It will only be open to those players who have NEVER played in a league or for any club team (at senior level) thereby providing the opportunity to compete within their own standard of play."

So players who play for their clubs may not enter, and pretty well all squad members are in a badminton club. But how do county squad members who are not members of league badminton clubs get made ineligible? Simple - many county squads are registered as clubs, so their members may not enter. Just check the BE website clubs section if you do not believe me.

In any event what self-respecting county squad player would want to play against the sort of player these events are aimed at - I can only think of one.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

private message time CWB, unless you want to have a go at lunch my son publicy!

[CWB]

Que???????

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

you can only think of one self respecting conuty player who would play?

[CWB]

Who DID play in a bonanza at the beginning of this season. But, obviously, not much self respect.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

:rolleyes: who?

[CWB]

http://www.badmintonengland.co.uk/show_news.asp?section=00010001001900040004&itemTitle=News&itemID=793

It was the league section of the Birmingham event.

[alansd]

CWB......
This has been gone over ad nauseum. That bonanza had lots of county players in it. In fact Daryl Jacobs who got to the final of the oxford satelitte played in it. I think one of the guys on here played doubles in it and he is ranked pretty high and doing well in the opens also yet only one person seems to get stick for playing in it.

[Markymark]

All of the women's events were won by ladies who played Prem A last year.

[richard murray]

Was it a mr jacobs?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

dont play dumb now tricky dicky!

[David69]

I believe the runner up plays Essex County 2nd team? If memory serves he reversed the result in a county match earlier this season.

I'm sure there are a few names in there that you could get up in arms about if you had the time to bother.

[gjsims]

The comments earlier about shrewd marketing are spot on. BE is already able to track all the players registered through the club and league set-up. In general, this is on the decline. So what does an NGB do if they want to claim that they are increasing participation in the sport, being inclusive in their recruitment and drmatically increase the number of registered players on their books? Answer, find a population who already play the game on a regular basis and come up with something that lures them into the BE pen. As if by magic BE generates hundreds of 'new' registered players. They have in no way increased participation, they have simply found a method of taking the credit for what people already do under their own volition - the only difference is that these people and their activity are now registered and tracked.

[Luncheon]

Cynical Mister Sims, Very cynical.

Surely adding to the enjoyment of people who already play the game is part of BE's remit as well......if they have taken a group of people who don't "officially" play badminton, only play for fun.....at least they are offering them something extra.....sounds like some good work by Badminton England.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

The comments earlier about shrewd marketing are spot on. BE is already able to track all the players registered through the club and league set-up. In general, this is on the decline. So what does an NGB do if they want to claim that they are increasing participation in the sport, being inclusive in their recruitment and drmatically increase the number of registered players on their books? Answer, find a population who already play the game on a regular basis and come up with something that lures them into the BE pen. As if by magic BE generates hundreds of 'new' registered players. They have in no way increased participation, they have simply found a method of taking the credit for what people already do under their own volition - the only difference is that these people and their activity are now registered and tracked.


hmmmm good to see someone picked up that I meant it both ways.

is it cynical marketing or is it a shrewd angle?