Prem B weekend

[alansd]

Does anyone know if the counties all will have the top players out?
Thinking about a little trip up to watch but want to know if it will be worthwhile

[seamine]

Wheres it being held?

[FutureChamp]

I hear a rumour that the big guns from Nottingham will be turning out!

[alansd]

I suppose bukcs will have kidd and Rice and Middx Aamir and Raj

[Bigdog]

As far as I know there are no internationals this weekend so the top players may well be there. As this is the last year that 4 teams get relegated and it is so close (i think there is about 5 points between 4th and 9th) you would have thought counties would be trying to put out strong sides. That said I've still been picked! It's in Milton Keynes.

[Markymark]

As far as I know there are no internationals this weekend so the top players may well be there. As this is the last year that 4 teams get relegated and it is so close (i think there is about 5 points between 4th and 9th) you would have thought counties would be trying to put out strong sides. That said I've still been picked! It's in Milton Keynes.

The Elite players have had quite a few tournaments recently, and have some important ones coming up so they may not want to risk injury.

That said, Notts had the big guns out last Prem B weekend and they still didn't manage to get out of relegation. I think Glos and Sussex will defo go down. The other two (or only one if Herts are relegated from Prem A), could be anyone from Middlesex down. But I think It'll be a dog fight between Cheshire, Notts, Lanarkshire and Yorkshire 2.

[gjsims]

I'm guessing that as I have heard nothing to the contrary, BE have ruled that the time it took Liz Cann to travel from Guernsey to Milton Keynes was sufficient to qualify her to play for Middlesex? Maybe she was delayed at Euston...

[Markymark]

Yeah she was fine. She was living in Middlesex for the qualifying period required before the match.

[alansd]

I sense a little bitterness from our sussex members!!
I know Liz can had been training at the dome and another place in heaton for months so I dont see what the point is.... oh I do. Dont get indonesian internationals who play for wales to play for a county in england!!

[Phil McBride]

I sense a little bitterness from our sussex members!!
I know Liz can had been training at the dome and another place in heaton for months so I dont see what the point is.... oh I do. Dont get indonesian internationals who play for wales to play for a county in england!!

Ha ha ha ha..................... always worth trawling that one out again :p

[alansd]

There is a certain club that is known for doing this as well. They turned up to play and I was there and knew some of the guys. At least one of there players was from a far away county and I spoke to him at a tournament the following weekend and he didnt even know the name of the club he played for! He is a decent guy and I dont know if he was paid or not but if you are bringing in ringers get your story straight at least!! They also fielded a team but submitted the wrong names on the score card!! Priceless

[Phil McBride]

There is a certain club that is known for doing this as well. They turned up to play and I was there and knew some of the guys. At least one of there players was from a far away county and I spoke to him at a tournament the following weekend and he didnt even know the name of the club he played for! He is a decent guy and I dont know if he was paid or not but if you are bringing in ringers get your story straight at least!! They also fielded a team but submitted the wrong names on the score card!! Priceless

I remember doing that a couple of years ago, playing for Glasgow Uni B under an assumed identity in order to field a team when we were playing Linwood and half their team knew who i was and kept asking why i wasn't listed on the team sheet and why people were calling me Mick, also didn't help one of the boys on the team admitting to the oponents he had never seen half of us. ROFLMAO

We've all been there :p

Of course there was never any evidence of wrongdoing

[Markymark]

And did you lose the points?

Robert Gordon did that to us once in a uni league match. And their ineligible player won his singles, doubles and mixed!!! Big change to the score!! Lol.

Anyway, back on topic, anyone have any thoughts on who'll go down? And does anyone think anyone other than Bucks or Lancs can go up?

[alansd]

I remember doing that a couple of years ago, playing for Glasgow Uni B under an assumed identity in order to field a team when we were playing Linwood and half their team knew who i was and kept asking why i wasn't listed on the team sheet and why people were calling me Mick, also didn't help one of the boys on the team admitting to the oponents he had never seen half of us. ROFLMAO

We've all been there :p

Of course there was never any evidence of wrongdoing

No offence Phil but from what you have said in the past about your level and this guy its a different story. He is well inside the top 50 in england and was in the nats draw this weekend!! This team have plenty of other players they could bring but none showed up!! For a ringer only winning 1 out the 3 is a bit poor though!!

[Phil McBride]

No offence Phil but from what you have said in the past about your level and this guy its a different story. He is well inside the top 50 in england and was in the nats draw this weekend!! This team have plenty of other players they could bring but none showed up!! For a ringer only winning 1 out the 3 is a bit poor though!!

Course it is but we are talking different leagues but the same thing happening.................. i wonder if these are isolated incidents?

1 out of 3, maybe he didnt want to draw attention to himself by being that damn good

[alansd]

He tried to win alright but we just put out a strong team! that they didnt expect!!
I was happy to be the ****est player in our team by a mile

Not played in many leagues but I assume its the same everywhere!

[nodiggity]

There is still no way Liz Cann lived in Middlesex. Yes she did train there with Tom John but as to actually living there and being and resident I don't think so. She lives in Milton Keynes. It would be very interesting to she if she is on the voting roll in Milton Keynes or Middlesex??????

[gjsims]

Enough said...

I would be interested as to which club you were talking about though, asd. Can you give me a cryptic clue?

[Markymark]

There is still no way Liz Cann lived in Middlesex. Yes she did train there with Tom John but as to actually living there and being and resident I don't think so. She lives in Milton Keynes. It would be very interesting to she if she is on the voting roll in Milton Keynes or Middlesex??????

Well being on the voting roll has diddly squat to do with whether you are eligibile to play Inter County badminton so it wouldn't be all that interesting.

[alansd]

Mark is fiesty this morning!!!
You go get em, imagine the cheek talking trash about middx!!

[nodiggity]

How can it have nothing to do with it????? Where ever you are on the voting roll is were you live. Thats not rocket science is it. Doesn't it work like that it Middlesex.... ?

[FutureChamp]

You can play for your county of birth or where you live - nodiggity is spot on, where you live is where you are registered on the electoral roll.

Once you have qualified through residence, you can move out and play for that county still providing you play for no-one else.

[richard murray]

seems like a lot of people have moved to middlesex recently

[gjsims]

Not least yourself...

[richard murray]

where is middlesex? is it near warwick park?

[gjsims]

They couldn't afford you.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Sims is in on the banter now as well!

Good man!!

:D

[richard murray]

plus I dont live in middlesex unlike 99% of the uk population

[gjsims]

But how would you know? Do I live in Middlesex? It's very unsettling...

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

plus I dont live in middlesex unlike 99% of the uk population

What 1% of the country do you live in?

:D

[richard murray]

just rented a small lockup garage in middlesex, how do I get a post code and address for it, (its at the end of someone garden)

[gjsims]

Can you fit a badminton court in there?

[alansd]

Hold on, I bought a travelcard in hounslow the other week. Do I qualify?

[gjsims]

Sussex's 2nd team played Guernsey away last weekend - that definitely qualifies them to play for Middlesex.

[alansd]

Did you fly from heathrow??

[Markymark]

How can it have nothing to do with it????? Where ever you are on the voting roll is were you live. Thats not rocket science is it. Doesn't it work like that it Middlesex.... ?

Complete rubbish. I am still on the voting roll at home in Scotland but I don't live there. Also, some people are not eligible to vote because they are not a UK national. Some people also can't be bothered to put themselves on the roll, but that doesn't stop them living somewhere. Most students don't put themselves on the electoral roll where they go to uni, but they qualify to play badminton there. Silly, silly statement to make.

You can be on the voting roll in more than one place, but you are only entitled to use that vote once.

[gjsims]

I think they did. But even if they didn't they probably drove on the M25 for a bit. Or the A23 as part of that is in Middlesex. Maybe that's the criteria...part of the M1 is in Middlesex and that goes right by Milton Keynes!

[alansd]

Mark reminds me of that cartoon dog, Scrappy Doo.
Let em at em!!

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/scrappy.gif

[richard murray]

Will if you cann live in middlesex then you should

[gjsims]

That pesky puppy! He ruined scooby-doo. Hate him hate him HATE HIM.

[bigfoot]

Liz Cann was living in Middlesex, with a Middlesex postcode prior to the season. So she qualifies. it has been checked and verified by the BE.

Yes she does live in Milton Keynes now, but during the period she was training with Tom in Hounslow she was living in Middlesex as it would be a bit stupid to travel in from MK everyday when she has a place to stay in London.

You don't need to be voting in the county you play for - so thats rubbish

[Markymark]

Liz Cann was living in Middlesex, with a Middlesex postcode prior to the season. So she qualifies. it has been checked and verified by the BE.

Yes she does live in Milton Keynes now, but during the period she was training with Tom in Hounslow she was living in Middlesex as it would be a bit stupid to travel in from MK everyday when she has a place to stay in London.

You don't need to be voting in the county you play for - so thats rubbish

Well said Big Foot!! Although I guess that means that Liz Cann is not now eligible for the coming round of Prem B matches as she won't have lived there for the qualifying period before the matches.

[CWB]

, some people are not eligible to vote because they are not a UK national. .... Silly, silly statement to make.



Not so silly. Citizens of Commonwealth countries and the Irish Republic are entitled to vote in UK elections.

[Markymark]

Not so silly. Citizens of Commonwealth countries and the Irish Republic are entitled to vote in UK elections.

Hence the use of the word "some".

[gjsims]

Oh dear, did a wasp get somewhere it shouldn't have this morning Marky?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Not so silly. Citizens of Commonwealth countries and the Irish Republic are entitled to vote in UK elections.

Even women?

[bigfoot]

I'm not sure about that Mark, it depends when she started training back at MK which I'm not sure about.
I know she was still traning with Tom at the beginning of the season...

Well done on Liz winning the nationals by the way!

[CWB]

Liz Cann is not now eligible for the coming round of Prem B matches as she won't have lived there for the qualifying period before the matches.

Not so. She can continue to play for Middlesex unless she plays for another county that she becomes eligible for. If she is living in Bucks but has not played for them she is still eligible for Middlesex.

The relevant rule says a player is eligible to play:

"(c) for the county for which the player shall previously have played, provided they shall not subsequently
have played for any other county;"

[Markymark]

I'm not sure about that Mark, it depends when she started training back at MK which I'm not sure about.
I know she was still traning with Tom at the beginning of the season...

Well done on Liz winning the nationals by the way!

To qualify you have to have been living for 3 months prior to the match. So if she moves out just one day before the match, I reckon she's ineligible?!

[bigfoot]

just rented a small lockup garage in middlesex, how do I get a post code and address for it, (its at the end of someone garden)

don't think Middlesex will let you in to play for em however hard you try Richie ;-)

[CWB]

To qualify you have to have been living for 3 months prior to the match. So if she moves out just one day before the match, I reckon she's ineligible?!

No, not at all. See my previous post.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Bjork has gone quiet again.

Away trying to find out what 1% of the country he's living in that makes him illegible for the MiddleSEX...

:D

[gjsims]

Typical, he was always one for being on the fringes. Tease you for a while and leave...

[richard murray]

how much would it cost to buy middlesex?

[gjsims]

I think Warwick Park own it. And parts of Essex.

[Markymark]

No, not at all. See my previous post.

Ah I see. Fair enough. But at the end of all that, I think Liz Cann definitely did qualify for Middlesex, and therefore does until she plays for another county.

[richard murray]

guess the real question is does she qualify to play for WP?

[gjsims]

I don't think her purse is large enough.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

guess the real question is does she qualify to play for WP?


How would she qualify for Wuhan Province? Thats just silly Richard.

:confused:

[gjsims]

Apparently she trained there.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Therefore because I trained in the Kingdom Of Bhutan, does that make me elligbile for them?

I'm thinking Olympic Qualification here guys..... help me out!

:D

[Markymark]

Luckily, she's not Welsh.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Luckily, she's not Welsh.

She would have won the mens singles in wales never mind the ladies singles.

Raj Popat, what the hell is that about?

:confused:

[bigfoot]

I don't know how strong Raj Popat is...but what about Irwansah....could he not play?

[gjsims]

No he doesn't qualify anymore. He spent too much time living in Bognor Regis before the season began.

[bigfoot]

thats a shame...so he can't play for Wales or Sussex...

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Irwansyah....who knows?

Wales without Vaughan, Irwansyah and Morgan are really scraping the barrel at the moment.

Do they even have a national coach yet?

[gjsims]

Or England, or Indonesia, he's a badminton outcast, cats won't even lick him. About the only place he is eligible to play is Middlesex.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Why do you call Harriet "cats"?

:confused:

[alansd]

But you guys took him down in sussex didnt you????

[bigfoot]

i'm sure if he moves to Middx for training they'll have him - he's pretty good! ;-)

why can't he play for Indonesia?!
Would have thought he would qualify for Wales as he has been there a number of years now?

[bigfoot]

But you guys took him down in sussex didnt you????
tried to...

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

i'm sure if he moves to Middx for training they'll have him - he's pretty good! ;-)

why can't he play for Indonesia?!
Would have thought he would qualify for Wales as he has been there a number of years now?

Come Use your nonce!

He can't play for Indonesia because he's not good enough.

He can't play for Wales because he is not hairy enough.

And why "cats" wont lick him, I have no idea.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Apologies, the Chosen One is getting Bigfoot and Bigdog mixed up...

Apologies to you Bigdog sir, travesty of a call that one was!!

:D

[Bigdog]

Apology accepted - although no idea what the apology is for!
I presume Irwansyah is still ineligable? Particularly interested as I think we have to play Sussex!

[alansd]

Dont worry sussex will be no trouble this weekend!!
They will be getting a spanking!!

[David69]

Do keep the Middx banter up, it's....................hilarious.

[gjsims]

Apology accepted - although no idea what the apology is for!
I presume Irwansyah is still ineligable? Particularly interested as I think we have to play Sussex!

You 'think' you have to play Sussex?! Don't be coy dude, as a trainee actuary you have without doubt investigated all possible scoring eventualities. In fact, why not just tell us the statistically probable outcome, it would save a lot of money.

[Markymark]

Yorkshire 2 are in trouble too I reckon. They've only managed to win one tie so far this season. But I don't want to make any predictions...............

Except Glos and Sussex will go down. :D

[richard murray]

Do keep the Middx banter up, it's....................hilarious.
David where you born in middlesex or on a flight diverted to heathrow?

[Bigdog]

You 'think' you have to play Sussex?! Don't be coy dude, as a trainee actuary you have without doubt investigated all possible scoring eventualities. In fact, why not just tell us the statistically probable outcome, it would save a lot of money.

Fine then - statistically I think Yorkshire 2 will be fine. The youngsters will pull us through! It's going to be good fun and I imagine too close for comfort!

[Markymark]

It should be a cracking weekend.

Yorks 2 have some tough matches but if they can pull a big win out against Sussex they might be ok. What the hell - I'll go out on a limb and say Bucks will win and get promoted with Lancs. And Glos, Sussex and Cheshire will defo go down with Notts having to sweat it out to find out if 4 or 3 teams are relegated.

[alansd]

From what I hear the Middx team isnt the best this weekend. Dont get too cocky!

[Little John]

Notts should have a strong team out at the weekend. The team selection I saw assuming all fit was:
Men: Nathan Robertson? / Anthony Clark / David Lindley / Robert Adcock / Neil White / Chris Adcock

[CWB]

Are they going to concede the ladies and mixed rubbers then?

[Markymark]

Notts should have a strong team out at the weekend. The team selection I saw assuming all fit was:
Men: Nathan Robertson? / Anthony Clark / David Lindley / Robert Adcock / Neil White / Chris Adcock

That is a very strong team - can't really get any stronger on the men's side for any ICC team!!! Unfortunately, I can still see them being 4-0 down in singles against Bucks on the final day, and they'll be doing well to be in the lead against Sussex or Lanarkshire in the singles too. Should be tight!!!

[alansd]

Who do sussex have for mens singles? I doubt white or adcock would loose to any of the people I have seen playing for them. No county is going to touch them for doubles and I would be shocked to see them loose a mixed.
In fact I doubt many countrues would touch those mens pairings!! All they need is one good woman

[bigfoot]

manfred tripp and josh miles i think?

[richard murray]

Apparently they have two guys from Malaysia studing at Brighton who are ment to be really strong
YEOH Kay Bin and YAOB Sairul Amar, been here for about 4 months

[alansd]

Could be proved wrong but I would expect notts to win 1st and probably 2nd singles there.
Any of those players would beat Miles and white has been pretty strong this season

[Markymark]

Apparently they have two guys from Malaysia studing at Brighton who are ment to be really strong
YEOH Kay Bin and YAOB Sairul Amar, been here for about 4 months

It's a shame they have to have been here for 6 months then, isn't it? :D

[richard murray]

sorry that was two months ago (they have been here 4 months on (2 months ago))

[Markymark]

sorry that was two months ago (they have been here 4 months on (2 months ago))

Yeah yeah. I smell a rat :rolleyes:

University terms starts in September I would have thought. Maybe they were visiting their grandmother and training before the term started???

[richard murray]

anyway, they are ment to be in top 10 in world, so should make for some short matches

[David69]

David where you born in middlesex or on a flight diverted to heathrow?

Born there, innit.

[Little John]

Are they going to concede the ladies and mixed rubbers then?

No Notts will turn out a full team, however the ladies will not be 'quite' as strong as the Men...:)

[Markymark]

No Notts will turn out a full team, however the ladies will not be 'quite' as strong as the Men...:)

But will three 6-4 victories be enough?! Or rather two 6-4 victories and maybe a 5-5 with Bucks?

[gjsims]

White is in top form this season, but he has also played a lot of tournaments, so not sure his ranking is representative of his true standard. Manny will expect to win against any player they field field.

Here's a question for you all (I learnt this earlier tonight - I think I have the correct answer). Where was Liz Cann born?

[Markymark]

White is in top form this season, but he has also played a lot of tournaments, so not sure his ranking is representative of his true standard. Manny will expect to win against any player they field field.

Here's a question for you all (I learnt this earlier tonight - I think I have the correct answer). Where was Liz Cann born?

So he'll play ahead of the Malaysians?!! ;)

I thought she was born in Jersey, but maybe that's too obvious.

[alansd]

I would say whites ranking is spot on. Other than the Mark C's out there I dont think anyone would beat him. I would be willing to be proved wrong though. If I make it along on saturday I would have a fiver on that with you.
No one within 10 places has played less tournaments.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

anyway, they are ment to be in top 10 in world, so should make for some short matches


Ayob could be an issue after failing an A Sample Tricky, although probably still eligible for MiddleSEX.

[bigfoot]

White is in top form this season, but he has also played a lot of tournaments, so not sure his ranking is representative of his true standard. Manny will expect to win against any player they field field.

Here's a question for you all (I learnt this earlier tonight - I think I have the correct answer). Where was Liz Cann born?

think Liz was born in Surrey, but grew up in Jersey

[Lewisio]

White is in top form this season, but he has also played a lot of tournaments, so not sure his ranking is representative of his true standard. Manny will expect to win against any player they field field.

I presume when you say Manny, you mean Manfred Tripp and not the Mamoth out of Ice Age, otherwise Sussex really will select anyone.
Surely "Manny" doesn't win matches anymore? I would have thought White would whip him in 2, likewise most others in the division. Even the BigDog!

[Markymark]

You'd be surprised. He wins the odd singles match at Prem B. And he may have to this weekend if Sussex are going to survive.

[Lewisio]

Surely he'd lose to:

Bucks - Nick Kidd
Lancashire - Harry Wright
Dorset - Graham Hurrell
Middlesex - Aamir Ghaffar
Cheshire - Peter Fearns
Yorkshire2 - Bigdog or Marritt
Lanarkshire - no idea, so maybe!
Nottinghamshire - Neil White
Gloucestershire - Tony Gibson

So I predict he might only beat Lanarkshire, as I have no idea who plays for them.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Did he not have a two weeks at No.1 with "The Mighty Quinn" ?

[PeteG]

Did he not have a two weeks at No.1 with "The Mighty Quinn" ?

That's Manfred Mann and its a Bob Dylan cover anyway!

[Markymark]

Surely he'd lose to:

Bucks - Nick Kidd
Lancashire - Harry Wright
Dorset - Graham Hurrell
Middlesex - Aamir Ghaffar
Cheshire - Peter Fearns
Yorkshire2 - Bigdog or Marritt
Lanarkshire - no idea, so maybe!
Nottinghamshire - Neil White
Gloucestershire - Tony Gibson

So I predict he might only beat Lanarkshire, as I have no idea who plays for them.

Craig Goddard who would beat most in your list.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

craig goddard would beat most in the list did you say?

[Markymark]

Yep. Except Aamir and Nick. On the whole that is. Not impossible for him to beat Aamir, and Harry would be close.

[Bigdog]

Is Goddard playing this weekend?

If so gentlemans wager that (provided he isn't too hungover) Marritt takes him this Sunday

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Is Goddard playing this weekend?

If so gentlemans wager that (provided he isn't too hungover) Marritt takes him this Sunday

Did someone say wager??? :D

I would need to disagree with you James my son wouldnt I, to take this bet?

Try one of the Scotty mugs, they take the bait pretty easy.

[Jamie Neill]

I've taken the bait...and i'll take the bet.

Although, physio's told him not to play but we are severely weak with injuries. Our best player is even training Mon-Fri this week at MK then coming home?? So the injured ones are being put under more pressure to save us from the drop. I think i'm out, and if Goddard goes too then its Under 17's being called upon.

[alansd]

So you wont be down Jamie? I was going to introduce myself!
If you boys are short then Markmark and I will step in at second doubles!!

[Markymark]

A fit Goddard would beat Marritt easily.

I can see Dorset being dragged into the relegation battle too. Their first match is against Bucks, and it's not impossible that that couldn't be 10-0 to Bucks.

[alansd]

Marritt came very very close to beating toby and while I havent seen him play that is a decent result. Not sure how many sweatys could match that

[Badboy]

Marritt matched Toby all the way through that game as the scores show, he was quite unlucky to lose it in the end.

[Markymark]

Marritt matched Toby all the way through that game as the scores show, he was quite unlucky to lose it in the end.

Well I'm just going on their past results and the results of others. Gordon Thompson beat Marritt very easily in last year's Prem B so I can't see how he would trouble Goddard. But I may be wrong!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

So....
Godfather and Markymark, bets are on?

You could be losing a bit of money this weekend Bigdog!!

:D

[Markymark]

So....
Godfather and Markymark, bets are on?

You could be losing a bit of money this weekend Bigdog!!

:D

Well, as an umpire I don't think it would be right for me to bet on the result of matches. :)

I do think it'll be a great weekend and will be very close for the relegation places. I think it may come down to some of the last mixed matches which will be great.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

What are you talking about, you sound like the most corrupt umpire in British badminton, at you own admission!!!

You sure the chosen one and bigdog couldn't throw you a cheeky bung?

:D

[Markymark]

What are you talking about, you sound like the most corrupt umpire in British badminton, at you own admission!!!

You sure the chosen one and bigdog couldn't throw you a cheeky bung?

:D

My own admission? Think you're thinking of someone else!!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

The Chosen One needs a corrupt official for his match against the Admiral.....

You interested?

[Markymark]

The Chosen One needs a corrupt official for his match against the Admiral.....

You interested?

That would involve me finding out who you both were though? :rolleyes:

[alansd]

I could tell you Mark. Chosen one has given it away.
That little fella you had earlier is a bit handy. Not so much his brother though!!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

you know something i dont ladybird?

;)

[alansd]

The way he was runnign that big lad about was quite funny!!
I know lots you dont chosenone
Night off tomorrow evening is it?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

The Chosen One likes a wager ladybird?

He'd like to wager that you are still way off the mark!

:p

Now marky, how about some corrupt officiating?

[David69]

The way he was runnign that big lad about was quite funny!!

I've gone all paranoid.

[alansd]

I offered that Sussex boy a nice little bet on Manny Tripp against Neil White and he didnt take me up on it!!

I doubt I am too far off the mark but will know soon.

[Markymark]

The Chosen One likes a wager ladybird?

He'd like to wager that you are still way off the mark!

:p

Now marky, how about some corrupt officiating?

Absolutely not. :)

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

I offered that Sussex boy a nice little bet on Manny Tripp against Neil White and he didnt take me up on it!!

I doubt I am too far off the mark but will know soon.


go on, give me a clue!

:p

[alansd]

I reckon one of your associates will give it away. He needs a new poker face as well as a backhand!!

[Jamie Neill]

I might be down, i'm not hitting too well and can't practice so it's just whether its a good idea to go. Trying to weight up if a fit Under Scottish U17 Interntional is a better idea...the singles matches i'll have, which when fit i'd be well up for, are perhaps out my reach with the current state of affairs. All a bit pessimistic i know...

However, i ain't the only 1, Keith has medial ligament damage which he's been playing on stupidly. We could do with Craig Robertson, who's in Mauritius for his Anniversary and Bowman, who's our 1st doubles and mixed, and training there all week, but ain't playing the match, he has to come home.

We're a tad stronger on girls, everyone else will move down one place, so hopefully they manage a good couple of wins and ease the pressure a bit. I agree that it will be close and touch and go on relegation for a lot of teams.

I think if all 6 of us: Gilmour, Robertson, Bowman, Goddard, Turnbull and myself, plus Michelle Douglas in the ladies side had played every time, we wouldn't have lost 7-3 in our 1st 3 games, and had stronger victories last time. But i guess a lot of teams could argue the same with their strong line-ups not always being available. We'll soon find out...

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

I reckon one of your associates will give it away. He needs a new poker face as well as a backhand!!

One of my assoiciates? What are you on about ladybird?

The Chosen One is a lone wolf!

:p

[alansd]

Well the offer is there Jamie!! Let me know and I will bring out the ladybird specials for the weekend!!
I can also bring a couple fo bottles of buckfast as proof that I qualify!

[alansd]

One of my assoiciates? What are you on about ladybird?

The Chosen One is a lone wolf!

:p

Exactly!!

We are on the same page

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

so who are my "associates"?

[alansd]

Some geezer without a backhand by the sounds of it!!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Your banter is priceless ladybird!

Keep up the good work.

:D

[Markymark]

:p I might be down, i'm not hitting too well and can't practice so it's just whether its a good idea to go. Trying to weight up if a fit Under Scottish U17 Interntional is a better idea...the singles matches i'll have, which when fit i'd be well up for, are perhaps out my reach with the current state of affairs. All a bit pessimistic i know...

However, i ain't the only 1, Keith has medial ligament damage which he's been playing on stupidly. We could do with Craig Robertson, who's in Mauritius for his Anniversary and Bowman, who's our 1st doubles and mixed, and training there all week, but ain't playing the match, he has to come home.

We're a tad stronger on girls, everyone else will move down one place, so hopefully they manage a good couple of wins and ease the pressure a bit. I agree that it will be close and touch and go on relegation for a lot of teams.

I think if all 6 of us: Gilmour, Robertson, Bowman, Goddard, Turnbull and myself, plus Michelle Douglas in the ladies side had played every time, we wouldn't have lost 7-3 in our 1st 3 games, and had stronger victories last time. But i guess a lot of teams could argue the same with their strong line-ups not always being available. We'll soon find out...

Yeah it's always tough to get teams out - especially for the counties without the depth. It's always advisable to take 5 in case one gets injured right at the very start and then you have to concede games going forward (but don't take 7 - Surrey got into trouble for that before! :p )

And of course, one of your 7-3s in the first weekend should really be a 5-5. But maybe that's old ground! :D

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

all i am hearing is the scottys making excuses for impending relegation.

good effort though.

:D

[Bigdog]

So....
Godfather and Markymark, bets are on?

You could be losing a bit of money this weekend Bigdog!!

:D

I would like to draw your attention to my wording "Gentleman's bet"! I've lost enough money in the betting world for one lifetime - besides just about every match I called at the Nationals went the other way (except on finals day).

That said I still think Marritt could take Goddard if he is playing.

If Goddard is there then I may get a shot at Godfather - although I think I know where people would be putting their money for that one!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

If Goddard is there then I may get a shot at Godfather - although I think I know where people would be putting their money for that one!

Surely you'd be expecting to win that one?

The Chosen One will put a sheckle on for you.

[Markymark]

I would like to draw your attention to my wording "Gentleman's bet"! I've lost enough money in the betting world for one lifetime - besides just about every match I called at the Nationals went the other way (except on finals day).

That said I still think Marritt could take Goddard if he is playing.

If Goddard is there then I may get a shot at Godfather - although I think I know where people would be putting their money for that one!

Who plays Yorkshire's 2nd singles in the first team?

[Bigdog]

Paul Trueman and Andy Ellis play the singles - not sure which way round.

[Markymark]

Paul Trueman and Andy Ellis play the singles - not sure which way round.

It's such a strong county. But I think the fact that Yorks 2 are not fairing quite as well this year just shows how much stronger Prem B is.

[Jamie Neill]

As i stands, neither of us are down...injured, felt crap having to decline but wasn't much use to the team.

Sorry bigdog, and others, wouldn't have minded some gentleman's inside betting, would've been good.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Have your team withdraw from the weekend then?

Or have you managed some cover?

Also, I am disapointed that you are not playing Godfather, We could have arranged some bungs, made some money.

[gjsims]

Manny versus Neil White. Any comments, asd? :p

[ObiWan]

Results from this morning(from memory but near as dammit)

Notts 8 Lanarkshire 2
Yorks 10 Sussex 0
Middx 8 Gloucs 2
Lancs 8 Cheshire 2
Bucks 8 Dorset 2

I am told Sussex lost 7-3 this afternoon so are in serious trouble.
To be honest the Sussex,Lanarkshire and Gloucs teams looked the weakest.

[alansd]

Manny versus Neil White. Any comments, asd? :p

Neil was so much better than Manny. Anyone that watched it would know what happened.
Neil won the first to 7 and stepped down about 5 gears. Manny starteed playing a bit better had neil and fallen asleep. The fact that Marritt made him look silly on many points shows that it was a fluke.
That beign said, manny has some great strokes, a very talented player, and when the younger guys tried to play him at his game they were struggling

Only thing I can say is I wish I lived in sussex! County first team!

[ObiWan]

Anyone got yesterday afternoon's results??

[gjsims]

Neil was so much better than Manny. Anyone that watched it would know what happened.
Neil won the first to 7 and stepped down about 5 gears. Manny starteed playing a bit better had neil and fallen asleep. The fact that Marritt made him look silly on many points shows that it was a fluke.
That beign said, manny has some great strokes, a very talented player, and when the younger guys tried to play him at his game they were struggling

Only thing I can say is I wish I lived in sussex! County first team!

Perhaps it was a fluke then...or maybe Manny has a better memory, i.e. a badminton match is best of three sets...either way your claim that Neil was better than Manny has no basis. I was once told that no matter how good you think you are, and how bad you think the opposition are, if they beat you they played better badminton. This was, of course, after throwing one of my trademark tantrums having lost to muppet hackers.

And don't be so quick to judge the standard in Sussex.

[Lewisio]

So did Manny "about to" Tripp beat Neil "as fast as light" White or not?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

In three sets apparently he did.

Was Whitey running about like a headless chicken?

[Hillbilly boy]

yo wouldnt even get in the sussex thirds alan boy. show some respec dog! squeal piggy!

[Markymark]

It was a great weekend with some very close games, and some not so close games.

Relegation came down to the very last mixed match. Cheshire shot themselves in the foot in the game previously, needing to catch Notts by 6 points to overtake them and pull themselves out of relegation. Nathan Robertson had just lost his mixed meaning Notts could, at best, lose 7-3 to Bucks. And with Cheshire 8-1 up against Glos, winning the last mixed would have ensured that Notts would finish 7th and would need to sweat it out until the Prem A weekend to find out if they were relegated or not.

Cheshire were cruising at 18-12, and then seemed to self-destruct losing nine points in a row. The Glos pair played much better in the 2nd set and won easily in the end meaning Cheshire won 8-2, but with David Lindley winning the last mixed in three sets, Notts won the 3 they needed to tie with Cheshire on points, but ahead of them on matches won. Tight!

Bucks were easy winners with Lancs being promoted fairly safely as well. Yorks 2 were third after fielding a very strong team with players who have played for the firsts before, when all the big guns are not available.

Sussex and Glos were weak, and Lanarkshire was struggling was injuries. All in all a good weekend. Very harsh that 4 get relegated cos I think many of the teams relegated are not as good as Hampshire 2, Warkwickshire 2 and Herts 2.

[alansd]

Perhaps it was a fluke then...or maybe Manny has a better memory, i.e. a badminton match is best of three sets...either way your claim that Neil was better than Manny has no basis. I was once told that no matter how good you think you are, and how bad you think the opposition are, if they beat you they played better badminton. This was, of course, after throwing one of my trademark tantrums having lost to muppet hackers.

And don't be so quick to judge the standard in Sussex.

Manny did do well to come back and beat him and on the day he did play better. Neil couldnt pick it back up to where he was in the first and hasnt played like he has all season.

It looked like from the first 2 men there was a bit difference in standard to the rest, not being overly critical Mr Sims

[Bigdog]

Well Mr Sims - statistically speaking - we are still in Premier B after finishing 3rd (Albeit no thanks to me!). It was a good weekend and particularly exciting finish to Notts and Chesire. I hear Notts will be giving Mr Griffiths the key to the city after his performances - despite seeing him absolutely mastered out in MK on saturday night.

[Markymark]

I think it was more to do with the complete self destruction of the Cheshire players. But he did play much better in the 2nd set. Notts were certainly let off the hook.

[Markymark]

Manny did do well to come back and beat him and on the day he did play better. Neil couldnt pick it back up to where he was in the first and hasnt played like he has all season.

It looked like from the first 2 men there was a bit difference in standard to the rest, not being overly critical Mr Sims

Neil then took Nick Kidd to three on the Sunday!

[gjsims]

All very impressive Marky, but what you are actually saying is Neil (England's 9th best player) lost both games.

Alan, there is indeed a drop after the top two men, but don't lets go down the whole players unavailable, giving juniors a chance, injuries, disqualifications, etc conversation. Its been done and goes nowhere. If you believe you fit in at number three in Sussex then perhaps you should move a little bit further south? You might even get in a Horsham Arun team...

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

All very impressive Marky, but what you are actually saying is Neil (England's 9th best player) lost both games.

Alan, there is indeed a drop after the top two men, but don't lets go down the whole players unavailable, giving juniors a chance, injuries, disqualifications, etc conversation. Its been done and goes nowhere. If you believe you fit in at number three in Sussex then perhaps you should move a little bit further south? You might even get in a Horsham Arun team...

lol, take that!!!

milk or sugar in your coffee sims?

:D

[alansd]

Move into the country.... no chance I might run into that BillyBob fella and I dont want to be in a home remake of deliverence!
Or maybe thats what you have planned!

Sometimes you have to take things the way they were intended as tongue in cheek Mr Simms.
I really have t get myself a fake name on here so I can take the piss like everyone without the reprisals!

[gjsims]

Oh, so now I lack humour? Can't get anything right can I?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

badders drags you down that route simms...... before you know it you'll be changing your name to Grover!!

[gjsims]

Unlikely, I went under a pseudonym for a while, but have progressed through my virtual puberty. I'm now in an honest phase.

[Markymark]

With only two going down next season, and with Warks 2, Herts 2 and Hamp 2 possibly going up this season - two second teams are guaranteed to stay in Premier B next season. Can any county other than Yorkshire really sustain this? We also have the weird situation where 40% of the division can't be promoted.

I think it would be fairer for the bottom 2 in prem B to be automatically relegated, and then the next two having to play off with the losers from the play-off matches in the first division.

[Bigdog]

It will be weird having so many 2nd teams in Premier B. It is a stange feeling knowing that you can't getting promoted and that it's all about avoiding relegation. With 4 down that made it a particularly exciting season in premier B - 2 may not be quite so. I expect with the Bucks all stars promoted and a strong Lancs team as well the standard may not be so good next year. Although if Herts go down then only 3 will be relegated (Herts vs Notts would be a quick match with lots of 1 sided games!).

[Markymark]

It will be weird having so many 2nd teams in Premier B. It is a stange feeling knowing that you can't getting promoted and that it's all about avoiding relegation. With 4 down that made it a particularly exciting season in premier B - 2 may not be quite so. I expect with the Bucks all stars promoted and a strong Lancs team as well the standard may not be so good next year. Although if Herts go down then only 3 will be relegated (Herts vs Notts would be a quick match with lots of 1 sided games!).

Notts aren't going to lose too many men's doubles or mixed doubles along the way. But I think they should allow 2nd teams to go up to Premier A. It think Yorkshire are the only county who could pull it off, but it would have been interesting to see if Yorkshire 2's team this weekend would have been the same had the first team been playing on the same day.

[Bigdog]

The team that played the other day are the players selected to play in the seconds - the first time we have had a full strengh side. A couple have had to play up this season because the first team have had players missing - we have had to borrow the odd third team players to fill in. It is the same in any county that if you are missing players (to internationals, injuries or France!) players in lower teams have to play up - it's just that when you have a team in Premier A and one in Premier B even if all the second team players are available, if the first team are short then you are going to be missing players. It's good that there is one weekend that doesn't clash so that we have a better chance of having a full team.

[Markymark]

The team that played the other day are the players selected to play in the seconds - the first time we have had a full strengh side. A couple have had to play up this season because the first team have had players missing - we have had to borrow the odd third team players to fill in. It is the same in any county that if you are missing players (to internationals, injuries or France!) players in lower teams have to play up - it's just that when you have a team in Premier A and one in Premier B even if all the second team players are available, if the first team are short then you are going to be missing players. It's good that there is one weekend that doesn't clash so that we have a better chance of having a full team.

Absolutely. The team that played was the very top level for Yorskshire 2 I thought.

[Hillbilly boy]

alan boy, yo would be perfect for my own little version of deliverance! id teach about respect boy,yo need to after sayin yo good enough to get in sussex first team.

its all about prem a-alan should care more about that with surrey first in prem a and in 3rd place, well do ya boy?!

[Badboy]

I know they are all eligable and therefore not breaking any rules, but does anyone else think that Buck's team is a bit of a farce team, I mean half their players have played for other counties, surely its better to have the talent spread out then to get it all in one county, seems a bit of a slap in the face for the league and all the other teams to me.

[Markymark]

I know they are all eligable and therefore not breaking any rules, but does anyone else think that Buck's team is a bit of a farce team, I mean half their players have played for other counties, surely its better to have the talent spread out then to get it all in one county, seems a bit of a slap in the face for the league and all the other teams to me.

Not sure. It is a bit of a Sara Sankey Select but if they qualify I don't see why not. It will be interesting next year cos Bucks will be 4-0 up against Yorkshire before the doubles I reckon.

[David69]

we are still in Premier B after finishing 3rd (Albeit no thanks to me!).

You do yourself a dis-service. I assume you won all your singles? I can see where the nic bigdog comes from though, you definitely win first prize for most visits to the buffet in Elements :p

Mark you failed to mention your home county! You'll get a right kicking if you show your head round the door on Tuesday :D

Oh, listen, can you hear that? Sshhhhh............No? Nothing! Not single whinge about Liz Cann, infact, and with all due respect to Reshmi, we were missing our strongest ladies singles players in Liz and Chandrika and still finished a magnificent fourth this weekend. We also missed Aamir. Well done Middx!

Most impressive thing all weekend? Seeing a sweaty put his hands in his pockets to buy me a drink, cheers Alan! :D

[David69]

alan boy, yo would be perfect for my own little version of deliverance! id teach about respect boy,yo need to after sayin yo good enough to get in sussex first team.

Like EY EY EY was irritating enough. boy. :mad:

[afrayn]

So who did play for Yorkshire 2s this weekend?

I'm against 2nd teams being allowed in the top league, personally - I don't think it's fair. I think of the parallel example of the BUSA leagues, where Loughborough 2 would be in the Northern Premiership, and possibly the 2nds of one of the others, which would make it just a training league. Surely it'd devalue the competition to have 2nds in the top league. See the Spanish football league, as well.

[Markymark]

So who did play for Yorkshire 2s this weekend?

I'm against 2nd teams being allowed in the top league, personally - I don't think it's fair. I think of the parallel example of the BUSA leagues, where Loughborough 2 would be in the Northern Premiership, and possibly the 2nds of one of the others, which would make it just a training league. Surely it'd devalue the competition to have 2nds in the top league. See the Spanish football league, as well.

But it makes a mockery, when 4 teams next year can't get promoted. What's the point?

Bigdog did very well, but lost to David Gilmour. Won the others I think.

Yorks 2 had Alex Marritt, James Allinson, Marcus Ellis, Stephen Foster, Jamie Bonsels, Kate Robertshaw, Julie Pike, Sarah Petch, Susan Barbour, Jess White, Helen Ward

[Bigdog]

we are still in Premier B after finishing 3rd (Albeit no thanks to me!).

You do yourself a dis-service. I assume you won all your singles? I can see where the nic bigdog comes from though, you definitely win first prize for most visits to the buffet in Elements :p

Mark you failed to mention your home county! You'll get a right kicking if you show your head round the door on Tuesday :D

Oh, listen, can you hear that? Sshhhhh............No? Nothing! Not single whinge about Liz Cann, infact, and with all due respect to Reshmi, we were missing our strongest ladies singles players in Liz and Chandrika and still finished a magnificent fourth this weekend. We also missed Aamir. Well done Middx!

Most impressive thing all weekend? Seeing a sweaty put his hands in his pockets to buy me a drink, cheers Alan! :D

Just the six plates in elements this time - I'm on a diet. The Big Dog is actually a reference to my doubles smash, however it was not required this weekend.

Won 2 out of 3 singles - lost to David Gilmour who played very well, however the way I way playing 6 months ago I would have won that game.

[Bigdog]

But it makes a mockery, when 4 teams next year can't get promoted. What's the point?

Bigdog did very well, but lost to David Gilmour. Won the others I think.

Yorks 2 had Alex Marritt, James Allinson, Marcus Ellis, Stephen Foster, Jamie Bonsels, Kate Robertshaw, Julie Pike, Sarah Petch, Susan Barbour, Jess White, Helen Ward

And Nitin Panesar

[Markymark]

Just the six plates in elements this time - I'm on a diet. The Big Dog is actually a reference to my doubles smash, however it was not required this weekend.

Won 2 out of 3 singles - lost to David Gilmour who played very well, however the way I way playing 6 months ago I would have won that game.

And not to stick up for my home countymen or anything, but David has been injured for months so did great. He almost beat Chris Adcock too.

[Hillbilly boy]

david69er, its how i talk-yo eyeballing me boy? ill beat you with my numchucks, how do yo like them apples? ill make yo squeal like a pig boy!

[Markymark]

And Nitin Panesar

11 out of 12 isn't bad. Was wracking my brains!

[nodiggity]

Bigdog, saw you play this weekend. Could you tell me if you are sponsored or have any deals with Forza?

[Lewisio]

The ICC Chairman, Brian Greenwood presented both teams with the trophy and medals. After the presentation, Chris Ford, Buckinghamshire team manager said,

‘The team has bonded from the first match, and there has been a team spirit that is impossible to replicate; these things just happen. The blend of senior & junior players has worked well & everyone has acquitted themselves impeccably. Its been a pleasure to witness what has been a very successful 1st team season for Bucks & long may it continue’

So exactly how many Bucks players have been bought?

Nick Kidd - bought from Avon - wonder how much he gets paid?
Nathan Rice - naturalised Bucks?
Michelle Cheung - naturalised Bucks
Julie Standley - bought from Avon?
Sara Sankey - kicked out of Lancashire?
Richard Eidestedt - Swedish - how did Bucks convince him to play?
any others?

Who bankrolls this? Do they have a Russian Billionaire? Do Badminton England fund it, so there county is up there? Or does Sankey fund it, so she can have revenge on Lancs?

[nodiggity]

Bucks have a very rich chairman I believe. They also had Young Sook Lee play for them. If you think that Lancashire came second and they only really have Tom, Harry, Alan and Jo thats not bad going? especially that you don't know whether Tom and Harry will be with you on the Sunday. I must say though Bucks do have 3 great junior players in Arthur, Michelle and Alyssa.

[Bigdog]

Bigdog, saw you play this weekend. Could you tell me if you are sponsored or have any deals with Forza?

I don't have anything official but Vinney is my coach and he gets me a good deal. I have a real job unlike some of the players so I use what I want these days rather than what is cheap and I like all the Forza stuff.

[nodiggity]

So it is true that they are happy for anyone to use their products........ Have you ever tried Daz, they make your whites whiter.....very much needed bigdog....

[gjsims]

For gods sake, can't anyone stay on topic in this thread? Sponsorship, selections, regulations, postcodes, birth places, Warwick Park, Surrey league games, etc. Looks like you and i are the only sensibles ones here Marky...

[Lewisio]

Presume you're joking jgsims, otherwise you're getting as bad as some others on here!

[redkingjoe]

For gods sake, can't anyone stay on topic in this thread? Sponsorship, selections, regulations, postcodes, birth places, Warwick Park, Surrey league games, etc. Looks like you and i are the only sensibles ones here Marky...


well, don't be too worried...site support will soon delete all those offtopic posts

[bigfoot]

The ICC Chairman, Brian Greenwood presented both teams with the trophy and medals. After the presentation, Chris Ford, Buckinghamshire team manager said,

‘The team has bonded from the first match, and there has been a team spirit that is impossible to replicate; these things just happen. The blend of senior & junior players has worked well & everyone has acquitted themselves impeccably. Its been a pleasure to witness what has been a very successful 1st team season for Bucks & long may it continue’

So exactly how many Bucks players have been bought?

Nick Kidd - bought from Avon - wonder how much he gets paid?
Nathan Rice - naturalised Bucks?
Michelle Cheung - naturalised Bucks
Julie Standley - bought from Avon?
Sara Sankey - kicked out of Lancashire?
Richard Eidestedt - Swedish - how did Bucks convince him to play?
any others?

Who bankrolls this? Do they have a Russian Billionaire? Do Badminton England fund it, so there county is up there? Or does Sankey fund it, so she can have revenge on Lancs?

I think thats a bit unfair
Nick Kidd was playing for Avon because he was at Bath, and now he lives in Bucks...so he is eligible to be a Bucks player. Whether he is paid for it or not is irrelevant. He could be a Bucks player whether he was paid or not and if he wants to play county, why not?

Julie Standley is originally a Hampshire player I believe, went to uni in Bath so played for Avon and now lives in Bucks, so hence can play for Bucks. I doubt Nick and Julie moved to Bucks just to play for the county! prob has more to do with the NBC being in MK

Richard Eidestedt - came over from Sweden and is living in MK, if he wants to play county, which he obviously does, then Bucks is the county he can play for as he lives there

Obviously Bucks are gonna get some strong players as players move there to be at MK, but thats just the way things are. I don't think they were bought as such, and even if they are paid - so what?
makes the competition interesting, and gives ppl the opportunity to watch high level players play in county competitions like this

What would you have them do? not play at all cos its not 'fair'? or because certain counties are bitter about it?
if they want to play - let em play

[Lewisio]

Surely if these people played for their original counties you would have more talent spread around, rather than one team buying as many players as possible. You don't see Emms and Munt moving counties because they live in MK!
Not bitter it makes no odds to me as I don't play at that level, but I think the standard would be increased if more teams had 1 or 2 top players than one team having all the top players.

[bigfoot]

fair point, but where does that leave Nick and Richard?
Guess they have to play for the county they live in? or else not play at all - which seems a bit of a waste

however some couties are skewed naturally as it is with strong players...take Notts for example, or Yorkshire
and Avon have the pick of the players who go to Bath (its easier for students to play for the county their uni is in especially if they have come from further away, and the games will be better quality).

Its just the way it goes

Plus its easier for players who have moved counties for work, or with their partner to play for the new county they have moved to - like Julie, especially as she can attend the county practice sessions etc
it happens all the time with county players...but when its stronger players like these, i guess its more prominent

[Markymark]

fair point, but where does that leave Nick and Richard?
Guess they have to play for the county they live in? or else not play at all - which seems a bit of a waste

however some couties are skewed naturally as it is with strong players...take Notts for example, or Yorkshire
and Avon have the pick of the players who go to Bath (its easier for students to play for the county their uni is in especially if they have come from further away, and the games will be better quality).

Its just the way it goes

Plus its easier for players who have moved counties for work, or with their partner to play for the new county they have moved to - like Julie, especially as she can attend the county practice sessions etc
it happens all the time with county players...but when its stronger players like these, i guess its more prominent

Well no, Nick and Julie could continue to play for Avon as he had played for them previously but I get the point about county training.

Some people are just a bit more passionate about the county they play for and couldn't be paid even if they were offered. The reason that Yorkshire are so successful is that they have a great county spirit and a great set up. I imagine that players such as Lee Young Suk couldn't give two tosses if Bucks won or not.

[Admiral]

Oh I think he would Marky!

[alansd]

Yep and mixed with Fuk Moi Ass

How old are you?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Mixed partner has French parents though?

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

How old are you?


Big enough, old enough and damm sure ugly enough!!

:D

[ObiWan]

French/Oriental??
How much for that in downtown Bangkok??;)

[alansd]

I used to know her but its been a while now!

[bigfoot]

Well no, Nick and Julie could continue to play for Avon as he had played for them previously but I get the point about county training.

Some people are just a bit more passionate about the county they play for and couldn't be paid even if they were offered. The reason that Yorkshire are so successful is that they have a great county spirit and a great set up. I imagine that players such as Lee Young Suk couldn't give two tosses if Bucks won or not.

but then Nick and Julie still playing for Avon is still against what you're saying...as they both don't originally come from Avon...and Avon also follow Bucks in having a large selection of players who live there due to going to Bath for training...so are you saying its alright for Avon to do it but not Bucks? you have to be consistent

Richard and Nick don't have a home county so it just depends where they are living currently..which happens to be Bucks

[bigfoot]

I think people are getting the wrong impression...Bucks aren't buying people to play for them...that implies that players are moving to Bucks or going out of their way to make themselves eligible just for the sole purpose of playing for Bucks. I don't think any of them have done that, they may well be getting paid to play (i don't know) but they weren't brought in from another county for that purpose...they were all living in Bucks anyway.

admittedly i think players playing for their own home county creates a good team spirit like Yorkshire...but I don't see anything wrong in what Bucks are doing either.

the only two players you can argue should play for their home counties are Julie and Sara, but I can understand if Julie would prefer to play where Nick is playing...makes like easier for her...and I don't know about Sara but if she lives in Bucks and has had some probs with her old county then it makes sense for her to play for the county she currently lives in.

and just for good measure she beat her old county...is lancs her old county?

[Bigdog]

I think people are getting the wrong impression...Bucks aren't buying people to play for them...that implies that players are moving to Bucks or going out of their way to make themselves eligible just for the sole purpose of playing for Bucks. I don't think any of them have done that, they may well be getting paid to play (i don't know) but they weren't brought in from another county for that purpose...they were all living in Bucks anyway.

admittedly i think players playing for their own home county creates a good team spirit like Yorkshire...but I don't see anything wrong in what Bucks are doing either.

the only two players you can argue should play for their home counties are Julie and Sara, but I can understand if Julie would prefer to play where Nick is playing...makes like easier for her...and I don't know about Sara but if she lives in Bucks and has had some probs with her old county then it makes sense for her to play for the county she currently lives in.

and just for good measure she beat her old county...is lancs her old county?

It should be down to the player to play for the county they feel the strongest towards. As mentioned previously Yorkshire manages to hold on to a lot of its players, mainly due to a good junior setup where strong bonds to the county are made from an early age - it probably has less to do with the senior setup.

If it is more convienient for a player to play for a county they live in then fair enough. On the flip side I'm sure that for full time players - they probably don't go to the county training and as long as their home county is in Premier A or B then as they are all in the same place there is no reason to change allegiance.

I can't imagine that any county will pay enough money to make it worth while to play for them.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

I think people are getting the wrong impression...Bucks aren't buying people to play for them....


fair enough bigfoot, but how does nick explain the yacht in the south of france then!!

[Woody]

As Julie has now embarked on a totally new career in the MK area where she is required to work shifts 24/7 365 days per year and will find it difficult to arrange her days off to co-incide whith big matches I am sure that it makes sense for her to play for a county where she is now living and working,

The fact that Nick is there with her is by the way,

As for Bucks paying for her to play for them whose trying to kid who here????

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

The fact that Nick is there with her is by the way,


English please Woody!!

[Hillbilly boy]

who cares about who plays for who boy. premier b is all over now for this year so lets talk about the top league, premier a (ey ey)

squeal piggy!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

so who are your winners and losers for prem A hillbilly?

who is going down?

fancy a little wager on it?

the chosen one likes a wager, but he isn't interested in your sister... you can keep her!!

[Markymark]

but then Nick and Julie still playing for Avon is still against what you're saying...as they both don't originally come from Avon...and Avon also follow Bucks in having a large selection of players who live there due to going to Bath for training...so are you saying its alright for Avon to do it but not Bucks? you have to be consistent

Richard and Nick don't have a home county so it just depends where they are living currently..which happens to be Bucks

I never actually said it was ok. I think you'll find I said if they qualify....why not?? I just make the point that it probably doesn't mean as much to them as it does to Gail Emms playing for Herts or Jo Nicholas playing for Lancashire.

[bigfoot]

apologies markymark - i misunderstood ur post.

and i agree, players who originally come from the counties they play for are more likely to be loyal and passionate about playing for them

[Markymark]

apologies markymark - i misunderstood ur post.

and i agree, players who originally come from the counties they play for are more likely to be loyal and passionate about playing for them

Although, I am probably doing players like Nick and Julie a disservice. Nick played all three weekends for Bucks, and sometimes played all three events.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Nick played all three weekends for Bucks, and sometimes played all three events.

I should think so!! You should see how much they are paying him!!

:D

[Admiral]

Tha Admiral has heard that Manny Tripp slapped up Neil White....is that right?

[alansd]

Depends who you ask! Manny won in 3
Mr Simms will say he did him over, I reckon that neil won the first so comfortably he switch off and couldnt get back into it quickly enough.
Dont know all the scores but I know neil won the first to7

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

see, I don't buy that.

You don't excuse losing because "it was too easy" !!!

[alansd]

Balls you told me the other day you have done that!!

I agree it shouldnt happen but it does.

[Admiral]

The Admiral would happily lose every first set to 0 if it meant winning the match!

Perhaps Manny felt sorry for him and let him have a set?

[alansd]

That could be true admiral but I am just explaining what it looked like. Manny started playing very well at the net as well, but we all know that if you relax a bit its very tough to get back into it.

Lets be honest admiral, if any of your games this weekend go to three you will be in need of an oxygen tent after!!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Balls you told me the other day you have done that!!

I agree it shouldnt happen but it does.


Yep, I did. But I wouldnt excuse it!!

If You lose.... you lose...... No mitigation!!!

Also, I said I have lost to muppets before, but on that day..... the muppet in question was better than me.

Simple as that really.

[alansd]

True and Manny would give me a pasting in two so I am not critisising him or dont mean to.
When one person wins one set so easily then looses in 3 then there is normally something to explain it.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Yep. He needed an oxygen tent!!!

:D

[Admiral]

Very true Alan however The Admiral heard that Manny gave the lad a slap in the 3rd.....no oxygen needed!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

Also.... the Chosen One is still waiting to hear these "dirrrrrty stories" about the Jersey girl!!

Come on, come on!!!

:D

[richard murray]

Yep, I did. But I wouldnt excuse it!!

If You lose.... you lose...... No mitigation!!!

Also, I said I have lost to muppets before, but on that day..... the muppet in question was better than me.

Simple as that really.
When did you play Alan?

[kimboshay]

chosen one there are no dirrrrty stories about me.........alan is lying!

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

When did you play Alan?

Are you making insinuations tricky that I lost to ladybird!!

behave!!

:D

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

actaully maybe i misread that post....

you calling alan a muppet tricky?

thats not very nice!!

[richard murray]

I didnt know he was the muppet in question.

[TheChosenOneReturns!]

No tricky, he was not the muppet in question.

Alan rarely makes it out to Bangkok these days.

Very busy with work apparently.

[Billy bothered]

No He's not that busy with work he just talks a load of CROLLOCS on here which takes up most of his time.

[alansd]

Damn busy with work, cancer wont sure itself you know.

[richard murray]

we thought you had just fallen asleep

[alansd]

Cheeky kip in a cubacle!!
Classic!

[David69]

Trying to find a cure for cancer and you can't spell cure?

We're all doooooomed.

[richard murray]

Trying to find a cure for cancer and you can't spell cure?

We're all doooooomed.

Its the Scottish rhyming slang

[alansd]

These pissing keyboards, the letters are never where they are supposed to be!